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8 years 9 months ago #62421 by joomleb
Hi guys,
I'm not able to find any detailed documentation about. Joomla 3.7.4 JBConnect 7.2.1 (+SEBLOD).

Open Graph - Content: enabled - I need to enable to share the content image on Twitter. To share the image on Facebook should be enough without enabling this plugin.
Practically, sharing in Facebook and Twitter we have back: Image / Title / Intro + Full Content Text / Site / Author + all the ::cck:: tags inserted from Seblod in the introtext and full content text joomla standard fields.

Social Meta > Configuration > Skip:
Since I still want to show the content image, but not the ::cck:: tags inserted from Seblod, as far as I know I can use this feature to skip the "description" tags.
If I input "og:description" I can solve it on Facebook, but how to add the exact code to skip description in Facebook and also on Twitter (I made alot of tests without success)

PS:
Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Enabled: Yes
Social Meta > Configuration > Card Types: Summary Card with Large Image
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8 years 9 months ago #62423 by alzander
Seblod adds ::cck:: tags to articles and parses them out with their own content plugin or something. It's non-standard Joomla formatting. We look at the Joomla database for the content in an article and use that. You can try to re-order the JFBCSystem plugin to after any Seblod plugins so that their plugins modify the output before the JFBConnect plugins try to process them. That's my best suggestion on how to fix that. Otherwise, you may need to contact Seblod to get their thoughts on the best method to have those tags parsed.

For manually setting your own tags on any page, you can use the following tags:
{SCOpenGraph description=My great description for the page}
{SCOpenGraph image=http://site.com/my-great-image.jpg}

Just add those tags into the article content and you'll have what you're looking for.

I hope that helps explain,
Alex
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8 years 9 months ago #62424 by joomleb
Hi Alex,
thanks for your answer. I'm sorry for my bad English, but your answer doesn't match my question here:

1 - about SEBLOD plugin: many thanks for suggestment, I yet know;

2 - JFBConnect - Open Graph - Priorities from highest to lowest: explaned clearly from Mel here :

3 - Your suggestion, the number 1 in Mel explanation, is a manual adding to each article. It is not what we want. We are looking at the number 3 in Mel explanation, where add a Skip rule to the entire site articles. Skipping the Article "description" an Auto-generated "description" tag based on metadata will be created. So, setting in Configuration:
- Social Meta > Configuration > Skip: og:description
- Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Enabled: Yes
- Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Card Types: Summary Card with Large Image

Facebook: ok, the article description is been replaced with site metadata
Twitter: still have back the Article description. In Twitter Card Validator> Log:
INFO: Page fetched successfully
INFO: 19 metatags were found
INFO: twitter:card = summary_large_image tag found
ERROR: Possibly invalid value (if specified) (twitter:description)
ERROR: Possibly invalid value (if specified) (twitter:text:description)
ERROR: Possibly invalid value (if specified) (og:description)

We made a lot of tests, included adding the "twitter:description" as suggested here from Mel , but always having back errors.

So, the question here is: Which are the words we have to input in "Social Meta > Configuration > Skip:" to skip, in Facebook and Twitter, all the site Articles descriptions that wi be replaced automatically with the site metadata ?
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8 years 9 months ago #62491 by joomleb
Hi Alex,
Please, Do you have any answer to this issue ?
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8 years 9 months ago #62493 by mel

So, the question here is: Which are the words we have to input in "Social Meta > Configuration > Skip:" to skip, in Facebook and Twitter, all the site Articles descriptions that wi be replaced automatically with the site metadata ?

In Skip, you should just be able to put "og:description". This will stop JFBConnect from adding the og:description and twitter:description tags on your page.

If you look at the source and still see the tags, please turn on the social toolbar on the front-end of your site (JFBConnect backend > Configuration >"Enable Social Toolbar"). Then click on the Social Toolbar to see if there's any indication of where the tags are coming from. If that doesn't help, could you give me a specific URL where I can see the tags on the page.

-Melissa
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8 years 8 months ago #62653 by joomleb
Hi Mel,
PHP 7.1.9 + Joomla 3.8.0+ JFBConnect 7.2.1

For the moment I'm applying {SCOpenGraph description=My great description for the page} to my content as Alex suggested.

Today I shared another article from the Frontend: aimfi.org/corsi/la-gestione-dell-atleta-...eta-sano-08-ott-2017

Facebook: with success www.facebook.com/AIMFIorg/

Twitter: failed - do not run - then I added the post manually from Twitter twitter.com/aimfiorg
I also discovered that the last previous post was not shared inn the right way, the image was not shown. I'm quite sure was shared right and then is changed, because I'm use to check. Then I opened it in Twitter and into the Popup was right, closing it the big image magically appared.

Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Enabled: Yes
Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Card Types: Summary Card with Large Image
Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Website Username: empty
Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Creator Username: empty

Tested with cards-dev.twitter.com/validator and seem Ok
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8 years 8 months ago #62657 by alzander
Twitter and Facebook are constantly scanning pages for the proper tags. If the right information doesn't show up immediately, but does later, it means that the social network just re-scanned the page to get newer information to display.

That can be frustrating, but there's nothing we can do to speed up each social network's crawl of your page.

I hope that helps explain, but don't hesitate to get in touch with any further questions.

Thanks,
Alex
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8 years 8 months ago #62710 by joomleb
Hi Alex,
sorry for my bad English. As I wrote, and I retested today to be sure, the main problem here is sharing articles from the Frontend is not running for Twitter.

Twitter: failed - do not run - (then I added the post manually from Twitter with success)

Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Enabled: Yes
Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Card Types: Summary Card with Large Image
Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Website Username: empty
Social Meta > Configuration > Twitter Cards > Creator Username: empty

Tested with cards-dev.twitter.com/validator and seem Ok
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8 years 8 months ago #62718 by alzander
Can you explain:

Twitter: failed - do not run - (then I added the post manually from Twitter with success)

What are you doing here?
Are you using the Tweet button?
If so, what is failing?
* Is the post not showing up on Twitter at all?
* Is the post showing up but with the wrong title, description or image?

If the Validator service is working, that means the JFBConnect tags are correct. Again, Twitter doesn't always scan the page right away, which is why it may not show up the first time you try to post to Twitter. Unfortunately, we can't control that.

Thanks,
Alex
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8 years 8 months ago #62720 by joomleb
Hi Alex, this is what I mean:

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