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7 years 8 months ago #59283 by joomleb
Hi guys,
running Joomla 3.6.2 in multilanguage, please,
Is there a way to use the feature "Post to a Channel" (Facebook Page) in all Languages I have on my Joomla Site using the new Facebook multilanguage feature introduced on february 2016 ?
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7 years 7 months ago #59289 by alzander
Can you explain more about the issues you're running into? If you are on a multi-lingual page that is publicly viewable, I would think the Post to Channel feature would post that page to the social networks.

If you're seeing different behavior, please provide some examples of pages you're trying to share and what URL is actually being shared. It'd be very helpful to have a link to 2 languages of the same article, one that I'm assuming works and the other that doesn't for some reason.

Thanks,
Alex
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7 years 7 months ago #59298 by joomleb
Hi Alex,
I mean that when I post to a channel (manually) a link it is shared in Facebook and I can add some words.
From february 2016, Facebook have introduced a new multilanguage feature . Here a " small guide ".
With this new feature I can post in more languages, so posting to a channel manually I add and type some text that I should be able to do for al the langauges I want... (one post to a channel, more texts)

Hooping is more clear now...
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7 years 7 months ago #59308 by mel
Adding the ability to choose from available languages and post from your site would not be as easy as you're thinking. Also, this is not what we’d recommend. If you have multiple pages on your site, each in a different language, then you would really want to share each of those page URLs and create the post in that specific language. With the link you sent, it shares 1 URL (in 1 language) and you can add comments in different languages. Since there are the multiple pages with the different languages, those should all be shared individually.

-Melissa
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7 years 7 months ago #59311 by joomleb
Hi Melissa,

1 - This would mean to have, and manage, one Facebook Page per language, it is something that is really unmanagable, in special if are pages of a small Customer.

2 - It is something good for "Countries", not "Languages", where each page is a country branch assigned to a specific organization (logically each country have its own language).

3 - as far as I know, it is not a good thing for SEO and statistics.

4 - Facebook permit " Global pages ", but only for big brands that pay more than 10.000 USD per month to Facebook

5 - be careful Melissa, I simpy mean: when I'm Posting to a Facebook Channel, indipendently from my joomla language page, on the JFBConnect pop-up I need the feature to add the text comment in all the languages I want... as being on my Facebook Page post...

6 - There is a third way, using the Privacy Facebook settings : following what you told me, we can create "a Facebook Channel for each language" where setting in JFBConnect: A - the language joomla source channel (be careful that joomla permit same url for all languages), 2 - Location FB privacy setting, 3 - Language FB privacy setting.
I never used them, but I hope and think you can set only Location, only Language or both. Do you have experience on it ?
In this case would be a good thing have a way to organize Channels with "Locations/Languages" as subchannels. How?!? Simply: having more Locations/Laguages fields during the "add your comment" in the popup. So, when I select the checkboxes next to any social channels means to select all its "subchannels" if setted in JFBConnetc. Then all the Locations/Laguages fields I input will "activate" its subchannel and be posted, the others no.

7 I don't know how Twitter and others Social manage the multilanguage need.

What is the SourceCoast opinion ? =)
I still like the solution "5" because I like all people see all comments and posts in all languages (you can always translate). But I think also that the first offcial post would be good in all languages you organized the site. Doesn't mean if same image/video with more languages. Images and Video, in my opinion, should be always more "internationals" as possible...
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7 years 7 months ago #59362 by alzander

1 - This would mean to have, and manage, one Facebook Page per language, it is something that is really unmanagable, in special if are pages of a small Customer.

I wasn't saying that. You can post multiple times to your feed with each post being in a different language and links to the correct-language article on your site. How you space out those posts is up to you, but it doesn't have to be on different Pages.

2 - It is something good for "Countries", not "Languages", where each page is a country branch assigned to a specific organization (logically each country have its own language).

Agreed, if you *can* have multiple Pages targeting each country, that's best, but that's a whole lot more work.

3 - as far as I know, it is not a good thing for SEO and statistics.

Not sure about SEO. Having links to your multi-lingual content, I would assume, is a good thing. Whereas having all of the links from your Facebook Page point to the English (or whatever primary language you choose) content on your site would not help all the other content.

4 - Facebook permit "Global pages", but only for big brands that pay more than 10.000 USD per month to Facebook

I know nothing about this.

5 - be careful Melissa, I simpy mean: when I'm Posting to a Facebook Channel, indipendently from my joomla language page, on the JFBConnect pop-up I need the feature to add the text comment in all the languages I want... as being on my Facebook Page post...

6 - There is a third way, using the Privacy Facebook settings: following what you told me, we can create "a Facebook Channel for each language" where setting in JFBConnect: A - the language joomla source channel (be careful that joomla permit same url for all languages), 2 - Location FB privacy setting, 3 - Language FB privacy setting.
I never used them, but I hope and think you can set only Location, only Language or both. Do you have experience on it ?

Joomla creates different URLs for your multi-lingual content, which means your content gets all spread out on the site.

7 I don't know how Twitter and others Social manage the multilanguage need.

They don't, as far as I know. For them, you'd need to post individually in each of the languages that you want to display similar to how we do it above. The multi-lingual posts is a new feature for Facebook but, as far as I know, there's no way for us to implement it through the API. It can only be done by visiting the Page and creating the post itself with the text you want in each language. It's a on-Page only feature which you're free to use, but don't think we can do it when you're using the Channel feature.

I hope that helps,
Alex
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7 years 6 months ago #59705 by joomleb
Hi Alex,

on point 1 you answered me with:

1 - ...You can post multiple times to your feed with each post being in a different language and links to the correct-language article on your site. How you space out those posts is up to you, but it doesn't have to be on different Pages.


that, practically is a semplified way of my suggestion, point 6:

6 - There is a third way, using the Privacy Facebook settings: following what you told me, we can create "a Facebook Channel for each language" where setting in JFBConnect: A - the language joomla source channel (be careful that joomla permit same url for all languages), B - Location FB privacy setting, C - Language FB privacy setting.
I never used them, but I hope and think you can set only Location, only Language or both. Do you have experience on it ?
In this case would be a good thing have a way to organize Channels with "Locations/Languages" as subchannels. How?!? Simply: having more Locations/Laguages fields during the "add your comment" in the popup. So, when I select the checkboxes next to any social channels means to select all its "subchannels" if setted in JFBConnetc. Then all the Locations/Laguages fields I input will "activate" its subchannel and be posted, the others no.


So, in case of automatic posts, Is there a way to create "a Facebook Channel for each language" where to set in JFBConnect at least the point A?:
A - the language joomla source channel (be careful that joomla permit same url for all languages).

PS Hooping can help you investigating on a multilingual API update, this is the Facebook official article on 1st July 2016 about the new feature.
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7 years 6 months ago #59723 by alzander

So, in case of automatic posts, Is there a way to create "a Facebook Channel for each language" where to set in JFBConnect at least the point A?:
A - the language joomla source channel (be careful that joomla permit same url for all languages).

No, there isn't. As you mention, Joomla allows the same URL for all languages. When Facebook scans a page for displaying it in a post, it gets the 'default' language of the page and we can't change that.

You can set the Automatic post ability to post the default language of your page and then use the "Create Post" button in our social toolbar to create a comment in any language you want for each post.

I hope that helps give some ideas.

Thanks,
Alex
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7 years 6 months ago #59729 by joomleb
Hi Alex,
disappointed there is no a way, as far as I understand is not Joomla/JFBConnect that send the message (esatablishing the language in Channel settings), but is Facebook that read the article (and default language).

Anyway, many thanks for support
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