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Is this something that is possibly coming up soon? I really really need this for easydiscuss.
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I don't have a specific timeline on when more integration with StackIdeas extensions would be available, though it should definitely be done before the end of this year. There's a lot of extensions of there's that we're planning support for. We already have Open Graph Action support for EasyBlog and are planning on adding further Open Graph Action support for EasyDiscuss. We also are planning profile plugins for EasyDiscuss and EasyBlog.

Additionally, they just announced they are going to be releasing their own JomSocial competitor soon, called EasySocial. That's definitely something we'll be looking to support once we know more information.

Sorry I can't be more specific on timeline. We're really focused on the upcoming v5.1 release of JFBConnect which will add more social network providers (due out in August). Then, we'll be focusing on further 3rd party Joomla integration, with StackIdeas stuff very high on the priority list.

Thanks,
Alex
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Thanks for the response...

Just so everyone knows they said use JFBConnect and I guess they are going to help me with a Hack for adding the FB button and 2. pulling in the avatar which will be good for now I guess. That is all I need.

i need a third hack too that will work with JPayplans so that it can send people to the subscription / registration page and they use JFBConnect already so that's good.

It's funny but on StackIdeas site they have all these hacks which make their product seem really robust,,, which it is but it almost seems perfect. I implored to them to implement the solution as people would benefit greatly from it.

Lastly, the EasySocial looks amazing. Hope the version works out fine.

Thanks, Christian..

Oh and if their is one more SSO you can look into it would be Ecwid shopping cart. It is the best joomla version by far.
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Christian,
Sorry for the delayed response to this.

I'm glad to hear they're able to help you some. We do have a plan for a full-fleged EazyDiscuss social plugin, but again, it's just not available right now. I'm not sure what you're actually saying about JPayPlans (mainly, who's helping you).. but it sounds like you have a course of action there as well.

For StackIdeas in general, we agree their software is pretty sweet. We just moved to EasyBlog for our our blog, and very happy we did. EasySocial does look cool, and we'll definitely be working with that.

Finally, for Ecwid, what kind of integration are you looking for? When you saying SSO, are you saying people should be able to login with Ecwid credentials or that profile import from Facebook should work into Ecwid fields? We've heard of a few Ecwid users in the past, but it's not something we hear from a large percent of our user base, so more info on what you'd like would help us understand what could be done.

Thanks,
Alex
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alzander wrote: Christian,
Sorry for the delayed response to this.

I'm glad to hear they're able to help you some. We do have a plan for a full-fleged EazyDiscuss social plugin, but again, it's just not available right now. I'm not sure what you're actually saying about JPayPlans (mainly, who's helping you).. but it sounds like you have a course of action there as well.

For StackIdeas in general, we agree their software is pretty sweet. We just moved to EasyBlog for our our blog, and very happy we did. EasySocial does look cool, and we'll definitely be working with that.

Finally, for Ecwid, what kind of integration are you looking for? When you saying SSO, are you saying people should be able to login with Ecwid credentials or that profile import from Facebook should work into Ecwid fields? We've heard of a few Ecwid users in the past, but it's not something we hear from a large percent of our user base, so more info on what you'd like would help us understand what could be done.

Thanks,
Alex


I am pretty well versed in css and like to get things looking just right. With that said take a look at what I have been able to do with EasyDiscuss and the JFBlogin Connect. I have integrated it pretty well with both Payplans and Easydiscuss. easydiscuss integration

You will notice that if the person is not logged in and subscribed to the section they cannot gain access to view or obtain things from the site. pretty cool.

Next, The Ecwid shopping cart is amazing. it is web based that has wonderful ajax integration for both Joomla and Wordpress. You never have to update it as they updates they make are automatically done for you. Here is an example of my site here. Again, there are many css updates so it doesn't have to look the way i have altered it. My Ecwid Payment Page

With that said, Ecwid has very strong API's which include a SSO option. Problem is this. The one SSO that was written in 2011 for a joomla plugin doesn't work very well and seems to cause other headaches than achieving any real success. www.ecwid.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7297 <<< that is the plugin that is available now. Here is a summary of what one person said in regards to why the SSO plugin doesn't work very well.

Customer comes to site...
the customer is NOT logged into the joomla site and navigates to joomla ecwid shop, buys something then clicks check out.

That customer completes the purchase form, fills out the details and makes the payment.

Errors
1. The customer is not forced to create a account with the site
2. The customer has no account area
A. cannot add or change address
B. cannot view orders made
3. Returning customers have to enter their details again

Has there been any fix's to these issues yet?

the other issues are...

Customer comes to site...
Customer logs into joomla site
Navigates to joomla ecwid shop, buys something then clicks check out.

1. The customer has no account area
A. cannot add or change address
B. cannot view orders made

Although the plug-in does what it says it does and does it very well...
It creates more problems for me...

Until these issues are fixed im going to stay using the ecwid shop the old way.
If someone can correct me im all ears.


So essentially what it sounds like the plugin is doing is bypassing the Ecwid Sign in / account area entirely... which is very NOT desirable because there are many benefits and features that come along with having orders viewed on account info once signed in. All the SSO should do is this.

When logged into joomla account you should automatically be logged into Ecwid. just in a parrallel sense. everything with Ecwid is the same... account info and all.

Next if you do not have a site account, and this is really where JFBConnect could come to the rescue you could for example click "login with FB" and WAHHLAAAH have an instant Site account and Ecwid account already to go. Or event if the person doesn't register with FB but rather the site then that SSO should have a "register here" link so the user can register their Joomla site account.

Again, the importance of running an SSO is critical here because people always need to revist their orders for example there could be a download attachment with the order... yikes I don't know what that other plugin was thinking.

In any event their API's are very well written and strong... maybe feature liking but nevertheless they always work very well. Here is their SSO API... kb.ecwid.com/w/page/43883623/Single%20Sign-On%20API

so with that said if you did a little simple something for Ecwid users they would love you and probably purchase your plugin because of it.

For me it is super important too because people mostly purchase things from my site and they sometimes don't signup for an account even with Ecwid. Even though they are could have to go back in and download something that I add after their purchase. If they would have the option to just sign in with the site in general that would be great and so much more beneficial IMHO.

let me know what you think of it and their API.

oh one last thing. There are many many people that use Ecwid so don't sleep on it. They need better joomla integration and I am working on a couple products that are plugins for Acymailing and Ohanah so the more plugins the more powerful the community will become for them and us.
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Christian,
First off, I really like the color scheme and overall layout of your site.

Regarding Ecwid, thanks for the background and overview on what's available and what's needed. There's nothing we can do right now as we're knee deep in JFBConnect v5.1. I haven't looked at their API yet, but I think v5.1 would make things much, much simpler to develop that integration. We've basically blown up the codebase for JFBConnect and are re-building it to make adding additional authentication providers much simpler to implement by not having everything so Facebook focused.

Ecwid still wouldn't be top on our integration charts, as we already have that planned out for the next few months (Google, Twitter, LinkedIn and a few others). After v5.1 is out though, it's something we could start investigating what it would take and determine if it's something we'd like to pursue.

So, unfortunately, I'm going to have to say "we're going to sleep on it", but it's always good hearing what our users are looking for. It's something we may contacting the Ecwid team about as well to see if they could gauge what the interest would be as well. It's always difficult determining what to work on next for the best bang for our users, but we're always open to feedback like this.

Thanks, and please feel free to give any other feedback, comments, or suggestions!
Alex
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no I understand and here are my thoughts on perhaps something I could commission on my own perhaps.

ok so my question is... does it have to be jfbconnect? meaning that an SSO could be with joomla and then hence the JFBConnect button would just be thrown in there to have them go to the registration page and form. Am I thinking about this correctly?

Sort of an alternative method to having the functionality without hacking the JFB code.

So again, would focusing on Joomla SSO be a viable option.
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No, I don't think it does. One of the things I meant to expand upon above was that our investigation would have to evaluate whether JFBConnect would even be the best place for it. If Ecwid stores user data and the user can login to your Joomla site with those Ecwid credentials (that may be used on other sites), it would make sense. If the user would always register/login through Joomla and that would simply also 'connect' the user into Ecwid, then it would be better as a separate extension/plugin.

The Joomla Authentication and User plugin system was actually built with that type of SSO in mind. You can easily trigger events off of a user logging into Joomla to update their info elsewhere (in a local database or in a remote system).

My guess is that a separate SSO extension is probably what would be best. However, if Ecwid does store user credentials that can be used on multiple sites, then integration into JFBConnect could be a good solution (and v5.1 would be much easier to implement that on).

I hope that explains,
Alex
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Hey how are you

I didn't get this part:
My guess is that a separate SSO extension is probably what would be best. However, if Ecwid does store user credentials that can be used on multiple sites, then integration into JFBConnect could be a good solution (and v5.1 would be much easier to implement that on).

Why would this option be better with Ecwid integration. And still i am not sure how the two would go together. I want to commission this but I want to know what extension this could be better based off of. I am thinking that if I develop it to SSO into Joomla than it should work regardless of how JFB updates.

Sorry I am not a dev but I can get the project done I just need to know the proper line of attack.

thanks for your help.
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Christian,
I don't know enough about Ecwid, so that's why I posted that. Basically, does Ecwid let a user login directly and store that user's credentials? If so, can those credentials be used on multiple sites? If so, that's what's called an SSO Provider since they 'provide' the ability to do single-sign on on multiple sites.

If, instead, they simply store a unique identifier for the user that *only* works on your site, they aren't an SSO Provider. They simply integrate with 3rd party software, like Joomla.

In the case of the first, integration with JFBConnect would make things easier because we have an API and tools to work with different providers. That's how we'll be adding Google+, Twitter and LinkedIn over the next 5 or so months. If it's the 2nd case, then a separate extension would be best as that's not a similar system to what JFBConnect does.

I hope that explains better. Again, I don't know enough about Ecwid, so I can't give you a direct answer either way.

Thanks,
Alex
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