Topic-icon [9.0.244] JFBC Meta - issues

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2 years 1 month ago - 6 months 3 weeks ago #67860 by joomleb
Hi guys,
testing with PHP 7.4.33 + Joomla 4.3.4 (Helix Ultimate 2.0.12) + JFBConnect last 9.x (SCLogin)


1 - Meta > Custom Object > Object Type: the list in the drop down menu is not up to date.
That field is really too important, for example, by using “place” means to tell to the Socials to look for the Longitude / Latitude fields.
But it is really very difficult for you to keep that list up to date, because the original official one seems to be “abandoned”, the list continues to change, here one example and a second example and often what’s happening in practice (running) is not what is written into outdated lists.
The best solution would be to add the choice to add it manually entering the Object Type value, Please, Can you add that option ?


2 - Would be good to have the Current Objects list editable instead to have to click to “Manage” to open an editable Current Objects list page.

Maybe the Meta Documentation needs to be reorganized, more details and examples are needed.
Anyway, “Configuration > Skip Components: …” = we can tell JFBConnect to skip Components Contents and to don’t create Metas for them. 


3 - When I set to Skip a component, Does this refer only to the “Default JFBC” configuration?  Or also to the Advanced / Twitter Cards settings ?!? I’m asking because often the components Open Graphs feature are really too basic and to have from JFBC the Facebook ID (Advanced) and Twitter Cards settings would be a good thing. Please, How exactly does the "Skip" function work?

4 - Example: I’m using the Solidres component that permits site users to add their Properties and Tours. Solidres manages quite well the Open Graph creation for those pages, so,I should add Solidres to the skip setting. Am I right ?
But Solidres does not manage well the Open Graph creation for the related Solidres component categories / search pages for which I have created specific menu items.
So, I can create a JFBConnect Meta “Custom Object” for those specific menu items like “...URL Query Parameters: itemid=2722” (for example), Am I right ?
Please, Can you point me to the right way to test it ?
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2 years 3 weeks ago #67919 by joomleb
Replied by joomleb on topic JFBC Meta - issues
Hi guys,
I'm posting to update this topic and avoid locking.

I read here in the forum that the the JFBConnect "Meta" section is under review for "upgrading", Please, Have you take a look to / Can you comment this topic ?
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1 year 11 months ago #67971 by joomleb
Replied by joomleb on topic JFBC Meta - issues
Hi guys,
I'm posting to update this topic and avoid locking.

Now, it is not an urgent topic, but after quite 2 months would be good to have here your considerations and/or at least to know something from you...
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6 months 3 weeks ago - 6 months 3 weeks ago #68663 by joomleb
Hi guys,
I confirm these issues/questions.
Please, Can you take a look and answer ?
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6 months 2 weeks ago #68673 by alzander
We're not planning to revamp the Open Graph Objects settings at this time. You are correct that types are constantly changing. A "custom" setting may be nice, but it also requires a lot more support as users will get it wrong and put the blame on us. We'll investigate removing any types that are no longer supported, but it is difficult as there isn't a standard page that shows what's actually available.

For "Skip", yes, that will skip all meta tags for that component from JFBConnect - Open Graph & Twitter.

For SolidRes, correct, it sounds like you should skip that component if it already does it well.

Thanks,
Alex
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6 months 2 weeks ago #68674 by joomleb
Hi Ale,.
thank you for the answers. About

4 - SolidRes example
You missed the second part of the question (the real question):
...But Solidres does not manage well the Open Graph creation for the related Solidres component categories / search pages for which I have created specific menu items.
So, I can create a JFBConnect Meta “Custom Object” for those specific menu items like “...URL Query Parameters: itemid=2722” (for example), Am I right ?
Please, Can you point me to the right way to test it ?
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6 months 2 weeks ago #68687 by alzander
Yes, that is the purpose of the Custom Object functionality. Please try to set it up and you can look at the HTML of a page to see if your open graph tags are being set properly.

Thanks,
Alex
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6 months 2 weeks ago #68695 by joomleb
Hi Alex,
I'm not sure I explained myself well. Just to be sure:

- Solidres has its own internal Open Graph
- So in JFBC I say to skip the Solidres component
- But Solidres does not manage well a Category page
- I can create a JFBConnect Meta “Custom Object” for that specific Category menu items also if the Solidres component is skipped by JFBC.

JFBC will cut off and overwrite that single Solidres page Open Graph, Right ?
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6 months 2 weeks ago #68701 by mel
Replied by mel on topic [9.0.244] JFBC Meta - issues
This seems reasonable if you set up your query parameters to target those category pages. However, I do want to point out that the Open Graph tags that will be added to your Solidres page will be the ones that you've hardcoded into your Custom Object. These are not dynamic to the content like the Joomla article and category content Open Graph objects. This is a limitation you need to be aware of.

-Melissa
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6 months 2 weeks ago #68704 by joomleb
Hi Mel,
thank you. Following with the example:

Let me say that the single page item Open Graph is managed by Solidres because I don't skip the Solidres component. So, the Open Graph on the pages:
.../category/item1
.../category/item2
.../category/item3
will be managed by Solidres.

But, I want to force JFBC to manage the item menu
category
by using the JFBConnect Meta “Custom Object” for the specific category menu item, like “...URL Query Parameters: itemid=2722” (for example),
because Solidres is not managing well that category page. As you wrote, this Open Graph will not be dynamic, it will not depend on category menu item content, but it will be fixed with the parameters entered in JFBC. Okay.

As far as I understan there should not be problems, right ?

Now, the question is: I'm seeing that Solidres is appending also the searches attributes to the URL like:
.../category?country_id=165&categories[0]=30&categories[1]=38&categories[2]=31&categories[3]=32&categories[4]=37&categories[5]=33&categories[6]=34&categories[7]=35&categories[8]=36&categories[9]=39&mode=grid&default_search_ordering=7
So, What should happen to the Open Graph managing, it will be managed by JFBC or by Solidres ?!?
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