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12 years 4 months ago #16408 by martman
Good Morning Everyone!

I think your product is great judging from the demo's and sites that I have came across that are using jfbconnect.

I do have one question though. I have read in previous posts that you plan to add a feature to manually post to a users wall while they are offline. I thiink this would be an extremely beneficial feature to interact with a sites users.

Do you have an approximate date of release for this feature? If it is soon I would be extremely interested in your components. Otherwise I may have to look at getting this developed myself.

Thanks in advance!
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12 years 4 months ago #16411 by alzander
We've changed a little bit on exactly what you're looking for. While we'd still like to add the possibility to post to a user's wall, Facebook really recommends not doing this on an automated basis unless you're really, really sure the user wants you to do that. It is still something we may implement, but we try to protect our user's from Facebook's (ever changing) Terms of Service, and this is something we'd approach very carefully. Doing it yourself is possible with JFBConnect. It'd take a little more work to store the user's offline access token (something we're planning to do in the 4.2 release in Q1) and then using that token to post a status message to FB (very simple, as we already have that functionality included).

With that said, with the upcoming 4.1 release (due this month), we're working on implementing Facebook Requests. These will allow anyone on your site to more easily invite their friends to your site or to specific pages on it. We're also working (and if all goes well, it will be included) on allowing admin requests to your users. For example, create a blog post.. then, create a Facebook Request that will go to all your users: "<App> thinks you should read the new blog post!". Both user and admin initiated requests will go in the standard Notification 'jewel' area of Facebook, and be great for getting return engagement from your users.

Hope that helps,
Alex
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12 years 4 months ago #16431 by martman
Well that was definitely not the answer I was looking for.

Oh well...
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12 years 4 months ago #16433 by martman
I definitely think you should include this feature... but make users aware that it shouldn't be abused... it would be a great feature for people like myself who run daily deals websites... We could then post the daily deal on "some" of our users walls...

For myself it is almost a must!


alzander wrote: We've changed a little bit on exactly what you're looking for. While we'd still like to add the possibility to post to a user's wall, Facebook really recommends not doing this on an automated basis unless you're really, really sure the user wants you to do that. It is still something we may implement, but we try to protect our user's from Facebook's (ever changing) Terms of Service, and this is something we'd approach very carefully. Doing it yourself is possible with JFBConnect. It'd take a little more work to store the user's offline access token (something we're planning to do in the 4.2 release in Q1) and then using that token to post a status message to FB (very simple, as we already have that functionality included).

With that said, with the upcoming 4.1 release (due this month), we're working on implementing Facebook Requests. These will allow anyone on your site to more easily invite their friends to your site or to specific pages on it. We're also working (and if all goes well, it will be included) on allowing admin requests to your users. For example, create a blog post.. then, create a Facebook Request that will go to all your users: "<App> thinks you should read the new blog post!". Both user and admin initiated requests will go in the standard Notification 'jewel' area of Facebook, and be great for getting return engagement from your users.

Hope that helps,
Alex

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12 years 4 months ago #16435 by alzander
While I understand your desire, it's simply not in JFBConnect. It is something we're still looking on adding, but again, we need to be on the safe side with what we implement. Even if we notify user's of the ToS's of Facebook, if enough people abuse it, Facebook can come back to the source (us), and that's not good.

As for your specific needs, there's a few notes:
* Again, in the 4.1 release, we'll have a way to send notifications to each user of your site. It won't be seen about their friends, but still a good start for getting the word out to already interested users
* In the current release, you could post the deal to a user's wall of anyone who's logged in through Facebook and purchased (or even just looks at the deal) with 3'ish lines of code.
* If you have a developer already, they can extend JFBConnect a little to simply store the offline token, and then use JFBConnect to send the messages however you want.

Hope that helps, and thanks again for your feedback. Around the 4.2 release, when we start storing the offline access token, this should become pretty simple then as well.

Good luck,
Alex
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12 years 4 months ago #16583 by martman
Is there a timeline on the release date of 4.1?

alzander wrote: While I understand your desire, it's simply not in JFBConnect. It is something we're still looking on adding, but again, we need to be on the safe side with what we implement. Even if we notify user's of the ToS's of Facebook, if enough people abuse it, Facebook can come back to the source (us), and that's not good.

As for your specific needs, there's a few notes:
* Again, in the 4.1 release, we'll have a way to send notifications to each user of your site. It won't be seen about their friends, but still a good start for getting the word out to already interested users
* In the current release, you could post the deal to a user's wall of anyone who's logged in through Facebook and purchased (or even just looks at the deal) with 3'ish lines of code.
* If you have a developer already, they can extend JFBConnect a little to simply store the offline token, and then use JFBConnect to send the messages however you want.

Hope that helps, and thanks again for your feedback. Around the 4.2 release, when we start storing the offline access token, this should become pretty simple then as well.

Good luck,
Alex

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12 years 4 months ago #16602 by alzander
This month is still the target. We finished up the last main feature for the release today, and will be rounding out some edges and testing over the next week. So, the week after next (starting the 19th) seems possible if all goes well, the week after that if we hit a stumbling block.

Very excited for this release now that it's all solidifying very well! Thanks for your patience, and like all feature releases, we think it should be worth the wait :)

Alex
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12 years 4 months ago #16831 by martman
Does next week (the 19th) still seem like a likely release date?

alzander wrote: This month is still the target. We finished up the last main feature for the release today, and will be rounding out some edges and testing over the next week. So, the week after next (starting the 19th) seems possible if all goes well, the week after that if we hit a stumbling block.

Very excited for this release now that it's all solidifying very well! Thanks for your patience, and like all feature releases, we think it should be worth the wait :)

Alex

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12 years 4 months ago #16835 by alzander
The 4.1 release is still going through testing. If all goes well with that testing, next week is still likely. If not, it should be released the week after that, but we're still planning that it will be out this month.

Thanks,
Alex
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12 years 4 months ago #16852 by martman
Great, I am really looking forward to purchasing and using your product on our site. If we purchase and install the current version, is the upgrade to 4.1 going to be easy? Or will we lose all of our data from the current version?

Thanks again

alzander wrote: The 4.1 release is still going through testing. If all goes well with that testing, next week is still likely. If not, it should be released the week after that, but we're still planning that it will be out this month.

Thanks,
Alex

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