Custom Open Graph Action : Manual vs. On Page Load

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Lisa,
I just realized that you're looking at the admin area of your site for the Activity Log. Since those actions are published, we don't allow you to delete them. The record of the action must remain in the database so that the user can delete the action from their Timeline. We also don't let you delete it so that you aren't altering (deleting content) from the user's Timeline, that's something they should do.

Once an action has been deleted by the user on the front-end, or the action was never published due to an error, you can delete it from your logs in the admin area. Hopefully, that makes sense. Better description text back there explaining why you can't delete them would probably be nice. I can see that an "Archive" button might be useful to at least hide some actions, if you'd want to, as well.

Home Page Open Graph
Your home page still does have a query string, it's just not necesarily shown in the URL. The same would go for an SEF URL.. there is an underlying query string you can still use. To do so, go to the Menu Manager and click into your home page menu item. There is a parameter for Link, which you can't edit. That will have the query string variables in it. You can click, drag, highlight and copy/paste that to notepad or something and use those values for the custom tag. It would look something like:
index.php?option=com_content&view=featured
From there, you should be able to create the Custom Object as normal.

Facebook Amex Big Break
Congratulations! We saw that contest going on and almost entered, but were pretty sure our work with Facebook would disqualify us. I'm excited to see that we're playing a part in your site, and that award, in the long run. Very well done, and we hope you the best of success. If you have to present to Facebook, feel free to drop our name... a lot current/big_smile

It's exciting to see what you, and a few other venturesome folk, are doing with the Custom Open Graph Actions. We will have easier implementation of those features over the next few months, and really appreciate your feedback so that we can tell where the difficult points are. That's how we improve our extension is by knowing what needs work. We know it makes Open Graph easier, because it'd be very difficult without JFBConnect, but also realize there are some rough edges right now.

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Alex

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Perfect explanation on Activity Log.  Explains a lot.  I was seeing certain availability for deleting and not making the connection to the user behavior on the front end.  Thank you for the Home Page tip.  As you likely can infer, I'm still learning the joomla platform.  Been a bit of a baptism by fire. 

You should enter Big Break, if even only for the process of completing the application process.  It really gets you to thinking about where you want to take your company.  Think that alone has helped positively shape the direction of our business.  Winning was cool.  That one on one training was gold.  We were the first wave, guinea pigs for BB and actually got to go to FB.  Think this years winners had FB come to them.  Anyway, it helped set a foundation of understanding for the long run considering the ongoing changes and evolution of FB.  Plus, the FB/Amex people we've worked with and continue to do so have been outstanding.  I'll let the cat out of the bag when I can on that April deal.  It's pretty cool.  Have your link in our footer current/smile

Those rough edges are nothing compared to what it would take to go it alone.  Your extension is opening up the possibility to get many more businesses onto the open graph who may not have had the opportunity nor skill set to handle it alone.  This is just so darn exciting.  Started dreaming of creative aggregations this morning and the next phase for our site's development, the plant database. We've got some catch up to do regarding getting our products online.  The ole' pdf solution just plain sucks.   LOL

This actually brings me to another question.  For us, Phase 2 is a plant catalog and Phase 3, online store.  Once I get the OG submission done will turn attention to a solution for the catalog.  I want something that works well with JFBConnect.  I wondered about establishing a K2 database of plants and then installing a shopping cart, but really not sure.  Any preference for extensions and suggestions for an implementation sequence that works well with JFBConnect?  Not solid on Virtuemart. What I've read makes it tough to have confidence, but that could be my inexperience.

Have a good one Alex,
Lisa

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Stuck again.

Using that dynamic html module for the button and I created a new custom object for the home page.
For query parameter I put this:
option=com_content
view=article
id=index.php?option=com_content&view=featured   (guessing this is wrong)

Didn't work.

Got confused when you said ''custom tag''.  Guessed you were talking about an html module.  Created a hard coded one:

triggerAction('1','http://www.diggersdelight.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=featured')

Didn't work.

current/wink Of course, I forgot to do this task before I submitted to FB.... 

  I have the front page Dig It button module turned off until I can figure this out.

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Lisa,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to this. For the custom tag, I meant when you create a "Custom Object". It sounds like you did that and added the following to the custom params:

Code:

option=com_content 

view=article
id=index.php?option=com_content&view=featured

You're correct, that's wrong. I believe the link you got from your home page menu item was: index.php?option=com_content&view=featured
If so, your custom params should simply be:

Code:

option=com_content

view=featured

That's it. Basically, just break the query string URL up into the xxx=yyy and throw them into the parameters. Hope that makes sense, but if not, let us know.

Finally, thanks for your information on the Big Break program. Sounds awesome, and hope you're loving every minute of running the business! Lots of stress, but lots of fun.. for us at least current/smile

Best of luck to you, and keep us posted on how things go for you,
Alex

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Worked like a charm!  Good explanation as well.  This is a great example of what happens when a person doesn't understand the language.  I get pieces parts and can see the relationships when someone spells it out for me, but to ''read'' it on my own... another story.  Thanks again for your patience.  It's appreciated.

Got my ''digs'' action approved.  Ironically, FB upgraded the interface right in the middle of my submission process and that had me confused a bit.  Well a little more than a bit.. LOL

A new a feature called ''Custom Collections" became available during this upgrade.  Aggregations is still an option.  Really not sure how the two differ, but I submitted a collection that was accepted.   FB emailed to ask how I like the new feature.  Guessing they pulled the first batch of applicants.   Think it's a great concept but so far it's not being delivered to my timeline so I really can't evaluate.. 

By contrast, when I tested I was able to get my Diggers Delight 'Digs" box on the front page of mine and my test users timeline.  It also showed after my "Digs" action was accepted but before the collection. Since the collection approval there has been nothing.  Even if a box was not delivered to the front page of the timeline, prior to this ''custom collections'' I could count on my "Digs" at least being displayed on the app tab in my profile.  Since acceptance, not.    Will be interesting to see where this all goes.  I'm just happy I've got people ''digging'' pages.  LOL

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Lisa,
Very happy to hear your actions are getting approved. It's exciting for us to hear about our user's pretty cool uses of Open Graph stuff, so glad we could help you along the way to learn what you were doing.

Collections are the replacement for 'Aggregations'.  They just announced this around when you were submitting, so not surprised you got a taste of both. For more information, see:
https://developers.facebook.com/blog/po … -timeline/

We're still investigating them a little, though it doesn't look like there's anything we specifically need to enable for them, outside of the Open Graph Actions we already help implement.

As for why it's not showing after you got your collection... well, I'm honestly not sure. That blog post may help as it discusses an overhaul to the Timeline in general. It's possible the collections don't show in the 'old' Timeline view, in case your profile hasn't been updated yet (they are updated on a rolling basis over a few weeks). Don't know enough about collections yet to have other guesses. If you figure anything out, or it just starts working, please let us know!

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I think you're likely right about the old Timeline view.

Couple things interesting:
1. My Timeline last week had parts of the new Timeline layout, like the replacement bar under the cover photo for friend, photos, etc., but not the timeline upgrade on the wall itself.  When that partial transition was displaying I saw no collections.

2. In the last few days it's reverted back to 100% old layout including those icons under the cover.  Right now, I see "Pages I Dig" an aggregate, not collection.   The collection originally submitted as "pages I dig" was rejected needing the pronoun removed.  The approved collection I have yet to see display is "digs"

3. My App interface still includes my Aggregation, however it does not offer a ''create new'' button underneath.  Maybe when Timeline roll out is complete that will go away.

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Regardless, it's got me excited to get this plant catalog going.  That is when collections are going to start to make some useful sense on the site.  We'll have things like ''favorite shade plants'', etc. as collections.  I'm going to be using yootheme's zoo.  Thought I saw on another thread another person integrating jfbconnect open graph action/objects into zoo.

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Yeah, sounds like teething and transition issues with the collections.. which is somewhat standard procedure for some of the new features as they roll out. Nothing to worry about, just be patient with.

Oh Zoo.. ugh. Yeah, it's planned. I really don't know Zoo well enough, but we'll definitely be doing an Open Graph - Zoo plugin 'soon'. I can't state just when as we have a huge amount on our plate right now, but it's definitely planned as there's a lot of requests for it and we think it would be sweet to have that integration as well current/smile

As always, best of luck, and keep in touch if you need anything else, implement anything cool, or have any feedback for us!

Thanks,
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Hahahaa... listen to you on that zoo ugh.  Understood.  The way I'm going by the time I push myself onto the other side of the bell curve with zoo you'll likely already have a solution.  Take mine as a gentle request.  No hurry over here.  Totally understand the plate overflowing situation.  Got mine spilling into buckets stuck under the table if you know what I mean.  Thanks so much for your help.  This is fun stuff even if it's a bumpy learning curve for this newbie.

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Lisa,
Glad you're enjoying it. Websites are a difficult road, but hopefully rewarding in the long run current/smile

Best of luck to you, and definitely keep us posted as things progress. We'll send out a newsletter, blog post, and probably shout from the hilltops every way we can when a Zoo plugin is available.. so you'll know.

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