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Hi.
I am slowly adding JFBConnect features throughout my site. Seminars and Events
The home page shows a list of events from a ZOO database (this home page is the canvas url in FB app).
Today I notice when I am logged into my Facebook SEMINARSandEVENTS Page and 'Link' (share) to my website url, the wrong image and description are displayed to share.
FB is selecting the last event on the website home page and taking the FB metadata image and text from the ZOO event.
The metadata in ZOO is enabled via this script and elements... Koozka ZOO elements
And FB is no longer giving me the choice to scroll thru all the images on the home page like it used to.
Is there a way I can get around this and define the metadata and image I want used?
I would appreciate any (polite) suggestions...
Cheers,
Tim.
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13 years 5 months ago #5508 by alzander
We haven't used that specific metadata plugin (and we'll be adding some similar features to an upcoming release of JFBConnect), but what you're describing is expected behavior.

Basically, Facebook lets you add meta-data to your page for link, image, description, etc. If Facebook detects this information on your page, they're smart enough to say "This must be exactly what the owner of this site wants to represent this page". In that case, the share information is 'fixed'. If there is no meta-data, then Facebook tries to let the user decide what's pertinent on a page. Since there may be images in a sidebar, or your logo, or other non-essential images, this is nice because hopefully, the user can figure it out better than a computer.

Hope that makes sense from an overview. So, the plugin your using is automatically creating the meta-data, which is then being automatically picked up by Facebook.

Our plugin will work similarly with some components out of the box, but we're anticipating a way to let you override any defaults by our tagging system. For example, in your Zoo article, you can put:
{JFBCMeta title="My Event" image="http://...image.jpg"}

It's not available yet, but with that system, we will try to guess the best metadata (as I'm assuming the plugin you're using does), but you'll have full control over it on a page-by-page basis.

This should be in JFBConnect 3.1 (mid-November).

Hope this helps clear up your question, and let us know if you have more!
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13 years 5 months ago #5515 by fb_1071635934
Hi Alex,
Thanks once again.
I sorta knew that was the likely scenario but dont know enough about FB yet to be confident.
I needed confirmation that I wasn't getting some weird conflict having both working at once.
btw, it mat be fortuitous having a look at the extension I mentioned. This extension creates new, dedicated, zoo elements to include the FB functionality in the zoo article.
I have managed to get your modules into my articles by using a 'Joomla Module' element.. So I create JFBCLike and JFBCShare as modules then create 2 module elements and select the JFBC modules I just created. If you could create your Like, Share etc as 'standard' elements via the install of the zip, put the require code behind the elements and then we would just drag and drop YOUR JFBC-Element into the layout instead of using the ZOO 'standard' Joomla-Module element.
This would do away with the curly bracket addition AND allow us to place your Like, Share etc anywhere on the zoo page without having to be creative with our elements. ZOO is a huge component and would bring a whole new following to your extension. People are leaving K2 for ZOO and its gaining momentum as I type!!
Maybe 3.2 in December ;) Yes??
Anyways what you are offering todate is just awesome and thanks again for all your help.
Cheers,
Tim.
P.S. I dont work for YooTheme...
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13 years 5 months ago #5521 by alzander
We don't give timelines for multiple-point-release-in-the-future extensions. We have a hard enough time hitting our targets for the 'next' release, that we try to be vague when giving those timelines out too.

As for Zoo, I can't say I've used it before, but we agree, it's definitely one of the most popular CCKs, so it won't be neglected.

Definitely appreciate your feedback/suggestions, and glad you're happy with the feature-set already included.. but rest assured, improvements are always on their way :)
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13 years 5 months ago #5533 by fb_1062048477
I dont mean to hijack threads but this sounds very similar to my problem (or lack of understanding)!

Firstly - thankyou for the awesome JFBC packages, really easy to install and look great :)

The Connect part of things is working fine as far as I can tell, I just dont seem to undertstand the Like plugin. I add {.JFBCLike.} (without the periods/dots ofc) to the bottom of an article, it creates the nice FB icon and I can click 'Like' and comment. It posts to my Facebook wall but for some reason grabs a random image from my site and only the base URL, it doesnt link back to the article where I placed the plugin?? Also, it seems to be site wide which I see has been brought up before on the support forums.

Essentially, all I want is the capability to add the JFBCLike syntax to a selection of articles for users to click, like and comment against. I want the default site logo posted to Facebook (or picture from article maybe?) and a link back to that specific article. Is that how its supposed to work?

Any ideas? www.swindonacademyofdance.co.uk

P.S. I havent implemented any kind of SEF yet, and the site isnt live either.
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13 years 5 months ago #5539 by alzander
The 'random' image thing will be correctable in the 3.1 release of JFBConnect by letting you specify the image on a page by page basis (as described above). That image is Facebook making it's best guess as to the image that represents the page.

As for the Like functionality, yes, it should work just like you describe. I just wrote a long post, then looked at your page further.. yes, it seems like the query string is not working with the Like functionality. Let me look into it more. In the meantime, something you may want to try is using the url parameter in the {} like tag, like so:
{.JFBCLike url=http://www.swindonacademyofdance.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=77#}
The reason this may be good for you, either way, is because you're using a blog layout on your home page. In that case, if there are multiple like buttons shown (1 for each article), the {} tag will simply use the 'current' page for each of them, which, would be the home page. We're (admittedly slower than we'd like) working on a content plugin that will insert the Like and comments automatically into an article.. just not out yet.

The url tag will work from any page that's showing that Article's like button. Not the most convenient, we'll agree since it's manual per article, but should get you closer to what you're looking for for now.

Hope this helps!
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13 years 5 months ago #5548 by fb_1062048477
Thanks for the quick response, I look forward to the picture addition in the next version and the content plugin.

Unfortunately, the URL parameter is not working for me either :( I used the link you posted above on the latest frontpage news article on our site and it posts to my facebook wall but only links to the site root url, no matter how many times I change the URL in the JFBCLike parameter it always links back to www.swindonacademyofdance.co.uk - any ideas?
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13 years 5 months ago #5556 by alzander
Unfortunately, no ideas. We'll do more testing with the url tag and see if we can get it to break, there's always a chance we missed something. If you can paste the exact tag you're trying to use here, that may help us to diagnose what might be going wrong.

Thanks
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13 years 5 months ago #5568 by fb_1062048477
Hiya. Did some more testing and here is what I found: I add the the normal tag (without the dots)
{.JFBCLike. url=http://www.swindonacademyofdance.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64:charity-event-oct-2010&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=77}
it posts the root URL to my facebook wall (www.swindonacademyofdance.co.uk). When I go back to the article and look at the code again, it has been reformatted to:
<br /><div id="jfbclike"><fb:like href="http://www.swindonacademyofdance.co.uk/index.php"></fb:like></div><br /><br />

Yikes! Any ideas?
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13 years 5 months ago #5570 by alzander
The code in the article is what we replace the {} tags with, so that's expected. Obviously, the URL is not being replaced properly, but the rest looks correct.

We'll do some testing with that code and see if we can recreate the issue. Hopefully, it's just something silly on our end. We'll let you know what we find!
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