Topic-icon What happens is user does not do JFBConnect & makes an FB comment

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Interesting moment: if a visitor does not do JFBConnect login to the site, goes to an article and comments on FB comment form, what happens:
a) A visitor is already logged in to his/her Facebook account, comes to my site and, WITHOUT logging in my site with JFBConnect, makes a comment?
b) A visitor is not logged in to his/her facebook account -- I tried and see that the FB comment form will ask him to log in to Facebook and then allows to comment -- this will become a)

So, the question here is how does my site benefit from JFBConnect? I can just put FB comments -- especially considering that my site is mostly content-based (that I create) -- meaning I won't have many logins there?

Plus, I can put all the "likes" and other social buttons using sharethis.com. So what's the point of using JFBConnect?

And finally, to be more specific, I will only have login for users to "claim" or "add" their listings in jReviews and possibly submit content in K2 -- and as far as I know -- now JCBConnect doesn't put this information to user's walls (actions such as "claimed", "added", "updated" listing in jReviews or content submitted in K2). So what's does JFBConnect provides then? What are the benefits to my site?

I'm not saying JCBConnect is not a good component, but rather trying to understand how my site can benefit from it?

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Vlad,
JFBConnect, like every other extension, is not perfect for every site. It's possible that maybe you don't need the features of JFBConnect.

To answer your questions though, yes, a user does not have to login to your site to post a comment using Facebook. You can use ShareThis, or other tools, to add social buttons. However, JFBConnect does a lot more than just the things you mention that other tools or manually adding the tags do not.

When a comment is posted to the user's Facebook wall, Facebook uses the Open Graph tags from your site to describe the page to the user's friends. JFBConnect lets you set these tags easily. ShareThis also doesn't know or understand the structure of Joomla's URLs. So, if you use their addon, your Like counts will be spread across multiple different URLs.. non-SEF, SEF, ones with a ItemId (from a menu) and other URLs that are generated for the same content. JFBConnect, again, knows how Joomla URLs are created and creates a canonical URL for most content so that even if 2 user's visit the same page through 2 different URLs, the Like button is the same for both.

As for the actions you're talking about, that was discussed in the post below. The next release *will* have actions that can be automatically inserted into the user's Facebook timeline. We will have support for jReviews, so different types of actions on your site can be posted to your user's Timeline, which is great for promotion. Our system is going to be very flexible so that you can easily create new action types like you're looking for:
www.sourcecoast.com/forums/jfbconnect/jf...book-wall?p=1#p27479

Finally, there are a huge amount of other features in JFBConnect like Friend Invitations (Requests) that user's can send their friends, Facebook Page Tab integration, profile import ability, 1-click registration, and many, many more things. While you may not want or need all of those features, they are things you may grow into with time as your site grows and you need to enhance your social promotions.

Again, it may not be for you, but putting together a lot of separate tools to do everything JFBConnect does is very difficult (if not impossible) and much more prone to mistakes or errors.

Hope that helps,
Alex
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I also forgot to mention that tools, like Sharethis, load their own Javascript from another site. That Javascript then loads the Facebook and other Javascript onto the page. The extra overhead of fetching other files, executing them, and then moving on to the actual Facebook Like or other social buttons you want adds anywhere from about 1-1.5s per page load. It may not sound like a lot, but it can be a huge hit to your performance, search engine ranking, and a lot of other factors.

JFBConnect loads the Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, and Twitter Javascript files directly, eliminating the middle-man for the highest performance for your users.

Alex
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Alex, first of all, I'd like to thank you for taking time and responding so quickly and professionally.

I also have a few follow-up questions:
1) What you mentioned in your first reply about SEF urls and Open Graph -- will JCBConnect work well with ACE SEF urls?
2) Also, those can I customize those share and like buttons produced by JCBConnect (in similar way I can select the customization in ShareThis)? Also, to add to this question: Can I select the position (place in article for example) where I put those buttons using JCBConnect?

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Also, to add to previous message:

3) Does JFBConnect has share buttons (Facebook Share, LinkedId share, etc) -- compare to "like" buttons (again similar choices that are there in ShareThis)
4) Also, can I see how many people shared / linked what content on my site (similar stats that ShareThis provides)
5) Lastly, to make sure I understand the original reply: even if a vistor does not login on my site using JFBConnect and makes a comment (using FB comments plugin provide by JFBConnect) -- that comment will appear on his/her wall (and be more descriptive with tags from site)?

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1) JFBConnect works fine with 3rd party SEF tools, including AceSEF. We've had some users have some issues in the past, but we've always been able to help them fix things. If you run into issues, I'm sure we'll be able to help you as well, but hopefully, that won't be necessary.

2) The social buttons JFBConnect supports are: Facebook Like, LinkedIn Share, Google +1 and Twitter Share. Each can be enabled or disabled individually for showing on your articles. In articles, you have the choice of placing the buttons at the top or bottom of the article contents. The buttons can be configured in a few different styles: Standard, button-count or box-count which have different looks to each.

You can also include those buttons using a tag like {JFBCLike} anywhere on your site so they aren't just on articles.

3) See #2

4) JFBConnect doesn't track this automatically. However, we do have an option to integrate the Facebook Like button with Google Analytics. With that, you can see how often the Like button is clicked and other data that Google Analytics tracks. We also have an option to send you an email anytime anyone Like's or Comment's on your site.

5) Correct. A user does not need to be logged into your site to comment using Facebook. JFBConnect lets you set the Open Graph tags on any page of your site which is then used for wall posts that reference that page (title, description, and image).

Hope that all helps,
Alex
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Thanks for the great replies. Last 2 questions:

1) Can JFBConnect co-exist with ShareThis? (what I mean I'd like to use shareThis buttons on top and likes buttons and fb comments from FCBConnect on bottom). Will it conflict with shareThis?

2) Do you have a Wordpress version?

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Vlad,
We haven't tested with ShareThis, but I know some other sites do use the 2 together. If you run into issues, we can try to help but a recommendation we may have to make is to disable the FB integration of ShareThis to prevent conflicts. All other buttons/features shouldn't cause a problem.

No, we don't have a Wordpress version, we are a Joomla development company.

Thanks,
Alex
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